Category Archives: God in the public square

are we a Christian nation?


Polls, data… sheer numbers would suggest a majority of this nation (at this moment in history) is Christian.  But our founding?… the founders?  What of the future?

Christians, with unwavering confidence on this topic, will state the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation.  I heard Glen Beck, who is now some sort of born again, evangelical Mormon or something, yesterday state that the founding documents were based primarily on Deuteronomy.

He’s an idiot and wrong the same way Christians are wrong about the U.S. being founded as a Christian nation.  You can keep saying it but it doesn’t make it true.

I’ve been re-reading a book called Faith of the Founding Fathers that gives a kind of breakdown of most of the founders and which side they sat on the religious fence.  Fascinating stuff.

What I’ve learned is that the founders were quite deliberate about keeping religion out of government and the public square.  When they do mention God it is terms that were very, VERY Deistic… Nature’s God, Divine Providence, etc.  And what they left out of the founding documents speaks volumes.

I highly recommend the book.

I will also point you to a really well written post on the topic over at: http://recoveringfundamentalists.com

Jim Etchison and Brian Sasville have a written a really good post on the founders, Jesus and about how history is written (and rewritten) by the victors. It’s somewhat long, but a good read.

Happy Friday everyone.

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March 2 primary results


So there were 1,446,008 votes cast of the approximately 13 million registered Republican voters. Not a very big turn out if you ask me, even with the GOP testing out a few propositions that are telling signs as to whether you’re a “real” Republican or not. (i.e. abortion, God in the town square)

Anyway… you can see the language of the propositions here.

The one that just has me absolutely dumbfounded though is the voting result for this one.
Ballot Prop 4: Public acknowledgment of God

The result was ninety-five percent!  That’s right… 95% of those 1.4 million votes cast voted yes!

Ok. C’mon now. I know y’all think you really want this but you don’t. You really, really don’t want to be Afghanistan in Christian clothing.

Of course there are some who would gladly let go of the 1st Ammendment.
this is painful and embarrassing to watch.