Category Archives: homosexuality

i love this quote!


This came from Michael Maroko, who is one of the attorneys arguing the case of Prop 8 in California.

Maroko said this to Justice Ming Chin in response to his question of whether the idea (that idea being the government should get out of the marriage business) “would solve the legal issues connected to gay marriage — issues that at their core revolve around the question of whether allowing some couples to marry but not others violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection under the law.”

Here’s Maroko’s quote:

“If you’re in the marriage business, do it equally. And if you’re not going to do it equally, get out of the business.”

I’ll drink to that!

Thanks to Patter Pensée for posting some of the Time article which gives me one of my now favorite quotes.

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rehearing Prop 8 in California


From what I understand, the California Supreme Court has 90 days from the hearing that was held on March 5th to decide what it’s going to do in regards to Prop 8 once and for all.

I still don’t understand why letting anyone get married is so offensive to some people. In the video link below you’ll see there is guy “A” yelling to guy “B”, “you’re going to hell!!” It’s at about 1:16. He also calls him “filthy” and other not-so-nice things and wasn’t being very Christ-like although he used the Bible as the basis of his stance.

What does it matter to guy “A”. So what! Why do you care if guy “B” is going to hell.
What does it matter to you. How does it affect you!… guy A?

circular-argument

And another thing… why would anyone want the government telling them what they can or can’t do. I really don’t get it. How does any thinking person think it’s ok for the government to tell someone they can or can’t get married or do anything they want for that matter so long as it doesn’t infringe on the right of someone else right to enjoy freedom and happiness.

I know… you think it just isn’t right. You can’t just redefine a word to include other things. Marriage is one woman and one man, sanctified by God.

You know what… that’s morality. That’s the government dictating to you what is right or wrong. Do you want the government (particularly this Dem-led congress and administration) Continue reading

why you gotta be hatin’!


I had lunch the other day with my dad and as pursuant to his M.O. he moved the conversation towards religion.

His spiritual path has seen him walking as a young man almost entering the priesthood, to evolving into a rabid atheist, to finding religion again and becoming an equally rabid religious legalist.

He asked me if I’ve found out any more about the UU Ad Campaign. (which by the way it is my opinion whoever thought up that lame ass campaign should be fired, shot or both. If anyone from the UUA reads this you might want to go check and see if the person who thought this shit up even has a marketing degree.)

But I digress. Apparently the adverts are being seen. As we talked about it a little, he made a condescending remark, kind of imitating the voice of a whiny child saying the next thing you know you will have homosexuals coming to your church because “they don’t want to be told what to do. And, ‘I can do whatever I want’.” Sounds like what a religious legalist would say right.

To which I responded, “actually that is something that we pride ourselves, in that we are accepting of everyone. Our history of universalism tells us that we believe in universal salvation. People are too good for God to condemn and my congregation actually does have some homosexual couples who are members.”

“What?!? You have homosexuals in your church?”

It confounds him, as if he just heard some scientist say we’re on the brink of technology that can allow us to heat food in a box in only seconds… “we call it a microwave.”

“WHAT! It can’t be. There’s just no way. Heat food in seconds? Homosexuals allowed in church?”

You know… I would think if there was something so important for us mere mortals to concern ourselves with such as what grown consenting adults do in their bedroom, certainly Jesus of Nazareth would have said something about it. Anything!  Something!  At least, “don’t do that.”

But he didn’t.   Jesus never directly said anything about homosexuality and there are only six places where it is mentioned in the Bible.

We ought to try and expend more of our energy on trying to treat each other with a little goodwill rather than slinging hash about what we do in the bedroom.

[Deist thinks of Seinfeld episode The Outing and giggles to himself, “hee hee hee… classic. “not that there’s anything wrong with that.” Bwaah haa ha!!! ]